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Between Rosie the Riveter and Sons of the American Revolution, Marine Corps vet Eric Winters is deeply connected to history

Marine Corps veteran Eric Winters and his son James are not only Sons of the American Revolution, but also belong to the American Rosie the Riveter Association. (Photo Courtesy, Eric Winters)


By Cris Greer
WKTV Managing Editor
greer@wktv.org

Marine Corps veteran Eric Winters discovered later in life some very unique connections to his ancestors.

Winters, who served in the Marine Corps for eight years as a helicopter airframes mechanic, learned that his great grandmother Mattie Lois Hopper worked for the Ford Motor Company in 1942 as an aircraft mechanic in the Willow Run Michigan plant, a real life “Rosie the Riveter.”


Mattie Lois Hopper, Marine Corps veteran Eric Winters’ great grandmother, is a real-life Rosie the Riveter. (Courtesy, Eric Winters)

“As a kid, I was too young and ignorant to understand the impact of my family history,” said Winters, who was 17 years old when he joined the Marines. “After being involved with Grandpa Thomas Joseph Lannon and the Sons of the American Revolution I learned and took it to heart about how ironic it was when I joined the Marine Corps and became an aircraft mechanic. My great grandma did the same thing; we both were riveters just 60 years apart. 

“I did have the privilege and honor to meet and know my great grandma, but she died before I became a Marine and an aircraft mechanic, so my grandma had to connect those dots for me. It is my intention to have my son James added as a rivet descendant under the American Rosie the Riveter.”


Female descendants of a Rosie are considered Rosebuds, whereas the male descendants are Rivets.








Sons of the American Revolution

“I remember in October 2015, I was stationed in Cyprus standing on a hillside overlooking the sunset fading over the Mediterranean Sea when my grandpa told me of his cancer diagnosis,” Winters recalled. “To keep grandpa busy while battling with his health, he became involved heavily with family history and genealogy. My grandpa traced our family ancestors back to a Reuben Clark who served in the American Revolutionary War. 


Eric Winters and his Grandpa Thomas Joseph Lannon are Sons of the American Revolution. (Photo Courtesy, Eric Winters)


“Once grandpa was a member of the Sons of the American Revolution it was an easy application for myself to become a member as I only needed to link my mom to my grandpa. I am a proud papa to my son James, and I have gotten him enrolled as a member of the SAR. This makes James the 11th generation patriot ancestor descendant of the American Revolution.”

“At 10 months old, James is too young to understand this significance, but it is my hope that as he grows older I will explain to him his family history and this is a connection to his great grandfather who luckily is still around.”

After his many years of military service and also working for the U.S. Department of Defense and Department of State handling government contracts, Winters’ life has taken a turn toward helping his fellow veterans navigate through life.

“This part of my life has shaped me and my life path in many ways,” Winters explained. “Serving in the Marine Corps enhanced my leadership skills and understanding of the complexity of human factors and interpersonal relationships. This time also showcased how complexity can lead to success. It became apparent that further education was necessary for future success in life.”


Marine Corps vet Eric Winters’ Sons of the American Revolution certificate.



“Embracing the negative to appreciate the positive”

“I, for one, know I have experienced feelings of sadness, loneliness, anxiety, depression, a loss of self-worth and purpose,” continued Winters, who also volunteers for Special Olympics and helps fundraise for the AMBUCS organization for those with physical disabilities.

 “I also know that I have experienced kindness, compassion, empathy, generosity, love and magic. These are the things that keep me going. We must embrace the negative to appreciate the positive blessings in our life. They are a part of our Marine core values of honor, courage and commitment.”

Winters, who has an undergraduate degree in Professional Aeronautics, moved his educational objectives toward psychology, obtaining a Master’s of Science in Leadership from Embry Riddle Aeronautical University, and concurrently getting a certification in Human Happiness and Well-Being from Yale via Coursera.

“Deeply involved in helping vets with PTSD”

“I became deeply involved in a support group for veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD),” Winters continued. “The program was geared toward recovery, but most of the participants were only granted a limited amount of time before the VA wouldn’t allow them to participate further. I then volunteered to continue running the program for those who still wanted to participate, but had already used their time up. The psychologist who originally ran the program gave me her materials and I’ve been running it since June of 2019.” 

Winters said this helped shift his focus toward helping others who were struggling with their daily lives and the effects of this disorder. 

Enter his nonprofit organization, VETS

“Going to work one morning I was in a terrible car crash where a commercial truck caused a chain reaction multi-vehicle accident where five vehicles were rear-ended,” Winters explained. “As a result, being in the middle vehicle of this accident, I had a long recovery process going through months into a years’ worth of treatments.”

Winters said the rehabilitation included speech, occupational and physical therapy along with eight surgeries. 

“That experience changed my career path,” he continued. “With all the pain I felt and the new physical limitations, I needed to create my own job and a new sense of purpose, basically, unless I could find a new job, one that could accommodate my needs.”

It was during his recovery that he became involved in helping other veterans with their issues. 

“The problem was it was taxing on both my time and finances since both were extremely limited. Surfing the internet on how to help my situation it became apparent I had to start a nonprofit to help not only myself, but also my military brothers/sisters. That is what I do now. I am out there advocating for our military community however we can, but with a primary focus on mental health and camaraderie.”

Long-term goals with VETS

“My long-term goal for VETS is to continue to build an organization that emboldens servant leadership, sets a positive example and one that we too don’t live in vain,” Winters explained. “For now, I just want to stay humble and kind, and as my grandfather would say, “Take each day and give it your best shot.” 

It was his grandfather who shared with him General Douglas MacArthur’s famous Prayer for his Son:

“Build me a son, O Lord, who will be strong enough to know when he is weak, and brave enough to face himself when he is afraid; one who will be proud and unbending in honest defeat, and humble and gentle in victory.

“Build me a son whose wishes will not take the place of deeds; a son who will know Thee—and that to know himself is the foundation-stone of knowledge.

“Lead him, I pray, not in the path of ease and comfort, but under the stress and spur of difficulties and challenge. Here let him learn to stand up in the storm; here let him learn compassion for those who fail.”

“Build me a son whose heart will be clean, whose goal will be high, a son who will master himself before he seeks to master other men, one who will reach into the future, yet never forget the past.”

“And after all these things are his, give him, I pray, enough of a sense of humor, so that he may always be serious, yet never take himself too seriously. Give him humility, so that he may always remember the simplicity of true greatness, the open mind of true wisdom, and the meekness of true strength.”

“Then I, his father, will dare to whisper, ‘I have not lived in vain.’” 

Suicide Statistics

According to the latest statistics on the VA News website (2022), 17.6 veterans commit suicide each day, which totals 6,407 per year.

“These deaths are not attributable to the Taliban, Al-Qaeda, Viet-Cong or any other enemy,” Winters said. “Their deaths are a direct reflection on our collective inability to do our buddy checks. They are a reflection on our failure to give our safety briefing, to monitor/mentor ourselves and our peers. It is a reflection on us as leaders.

“Becoming a Marine is a lifelong badge of honor — one earned through dedication, sacrifice and pride. Marines are not only members of the world’s most elite fighting force, but also part of a greater community that continues to serve and uplift others long after active duty ends.”


Marine Corps Birthday Ball
This year marks the 250th birthday of the United States Marine Corps and what better way to highlight the milestone with a celebration, said Winters, who is organizing the event. The goal of Winters and VETS is to fundraise and support the Marines while honoring past and present service members and their families. They are partnering with Creative Community Entertainment (CCE) to host the event.

“I had a sudden epiphany,” Winters said. “Milestone life events bring parties, and parties bring people and awareness. It just so happened that Marines around the world would be celebrating their birthday, so let’s host the next Marine Corps birthday ball.”




The First Annual City of Grand Rapids Marine Corps Birthday Ball will be held on Monday, Nov. 10, at the DeVos Place, 303 Monroe Ave. NW Grand Rapids. That marks the exact date the Marine Corps was founded 250 years ago; Nov. 10, 1775, in Philadelphia by Commandant Samuel Nicholas.

The Marines were the third branch of the US Armed Forces, arriving five months after the Army and one month after the Navy. Today, the Marine Corps is a component of the U.S. Department of the Navy, with nearly 200,000 active and reserve personnel.


The Skinny
The event, slated from 5 to 9:30 p.m., begins with a cocktail and social hour, followed by an official ceremony at 6 p.m., dinner at 7 and dancing at 8 p.m.


Local siblings share tragedy of losing brother on USS Indianapolis during WWII

Siblings David Payne and Suzanna Green shared the tragedy of losing their brother George David Payne on the USS Indianapolis after 77 years. (WKTV)

By Cris Greer
WKTV Managing Editor

greer@wktv.org


Editor’s Note: WKTV is reposting this unique, local story in honor of George David Payne and all United States veterans.


The weeks leading up to the sinking of the USS Indianapolis during a top secret mission in WWII, 17-year-old sailor George David Payne mailed two letters home from the ship.


Some 77 years after his brother tragically died on that ship off the coast of Japan, Sparta resident David Payne still gets extremely emotional reading those last letters.

“I get choked up when I read that last letter,” said David, who never met George David. “From my understanding he was a quiet, nice kid. I’ve never heard anything bad about him.”


Below is an excerpt from one of the two final letters from George David Payne (Seaman 2nd Class):


One of the two letters Wyoming sailor George David Payne sent home just weeks before the USS Indianapolis sank off the coast of Japan on July 30, 1945. (Courtesy, David Payne)

Dear Mom, Dad and Kids,

I hope this letter finds all of you in the best of health. I feel pretty good myself.

Tell dad and all the kids I said hi. Tell Jean the same. I suppose you are having quite a time with the kids. 

Tell grandma and grandpa I said hello. Boy, I’ll sure be glad when I get another leave, but I shouldn’t start thinking about a leave already.

I suppose it is pretty nice weather in Michigan now. Anyway, it should be summer. Well, I’ll have to say so long for now.
 
Love to all the family, 

George David Payne

Tragedy strikes shortly after letters sent home

Tragically, not long after the letters were sent, torpedoes from the Japanese submarine I-58 sank the USS Indianapolis to the bottom of the Western Pacific Ocean within minutes on July 30, 1945.

Only 316 men survived

An estimated 300 men died aboard the ship, while nearly 900 sailors abandoned it, leading to several days of fighting off sharks, dehydration and injuries. Only 316 survived.

Top secret mission delivering atomic bomb components for use on Hiroshima

On a top secret mission that began in San Francisco, the Indianapolis successfully delivered atomic bomb components to Tinian Island. The components delivered were used in the atomic bomb (Little Boy) that the United States dropped on Hiroshima on Aug. 6, 1945.

USS Indianapolis in its prime. (U.S. Naval History and Heritage Command Archives)

“Many are familiar with Captain Quint’s retelling of the ship’s story in the 1975 film, “Jaws.” Few, however, understand the far-reaching impact of the incident and the tremendous amount of documentation and research conducted in the wake of the incident that continues to impact how the Navy operates today,” according to the Naval History and Heritage Command Communication and Outreach Division.



George David Payne is remembered by two siblings (David Payne and Suzanna Green) in a WKTV interview last summer (2022). July 30, 2023, marked the 78th anniversary of the sinking of the Indianapolis.

Siblings Jim and Cherie Payne, and mom Lillian Payne at their home: 305 Murray St., Wyoming, in 1945. (David Payne)


“I wasn’t born yet when George died,” David continued. “I didn’t realize I had a brother that died in the war until I was seven. In the early fifties, there was a program on TV showing the Japanese sinking that ship and my mother Lillian started crying and said your brother was on that ship.”

While recently looking at a photo of his brother Jim, Mom Lillian and sister Cherie (dated June 20, 1945) enjoying a happy day on the front porch, David said it soon turned tragic about a month later with the death of his brother on July 30, 1945.

David said his brother George David wasn’t old enough to sign up for the war so his dad signed the necessary paperwork in 1945 to let him join the Navy.


A short stint on the ship

“He was only on that ship for two weeks,” said David, age 75, who’s lived in Sparta for over 30 years. “I had an older brother in California (Nick Alberts, from his mother’s previous marriage), and he met him out there. George stayed for Nick’s wedding in California, and then got transferred to the USS Indianapolis.”

David said Nick, a member of the Seabees in California at the time, blamed himself for George’s fate.

“My little buddy”

USS Indianapolis Seaman 2nd Class George David Payne. (Naval History and Heritage Command Archives)

“He blamed himself for getting him transferred and going to the wedding,” said David, as he cried explaining the sad details. “He always called George ‘my little buddy,’ and said, ‘I can’t come home without my little buddy.’”

Because of that lingering guilt, David said his big brother Nick didn’t return home for 15 years.

“He had guilt, but did finally come home in the late fifties when I was 14 years old,” David continued. “Nick left a book on the Indianapolis with me.”

Most of the 12 siblings (seven girls, five boys) grew up on 305 Murray Street in Wyoming and attended Kelloggsville High School.

Providing after death

Many of them experienced the Great Depression. And it wasn’t lost on any family member how far George’s Navy death gratuity went to pay for their necessities.

“Our mother bought our school clothes and everything we needed from that check, it helped out our family so much,” said David, born on September 17, 1945, less than two months after the Indianapolis sank. “Both mom and dad got 20 or 30 dollars a month from George’s death.”

Gruesome shark attack stories

David Payne honoring and remembering his brother George David at a USS Indianapolis memorial in 1995 in Indy. (Courtesy, David Payne)

During a USS Indianapolis memorial event held in Indianapolis in 1995, David learned firsthand about the tragedy from several survivors.

“Through the years, we didn’t talk about it much and we were hoping he wasn’t trapped in the ship or killed by sharks,” said David, who attended with his wife Mary and sister Suzanna Green.

“Some of the guys relayed the terrible stories, talking about sharks dragging away their friends. It must have been hell.”

He said nearly 200 sailors attended, and recalls some talking about the gruesome shark attacks.

“I remember one guy’s account saying he heard a fellow sailor’s last word’s while getting dragged off by a shark, he screamed for his mother, and David imagined his brother George screaming for mom as well, as he cried retelling his memorial experience with survivors.

“There were some terrible stories. They had to go through hell.”

A “wonderful guy”

Green said George David was “kind-hearted, and definitely cared about his country. My mother cried over his death all of her life and made sure all of us knew we had a brother George David. He was a good kid.”

Green, who also attended the 1995 Indianapolis memorial, recalls the heavy emotions of the event.

“We went there because it was in his memory,” said Green, who taught for 30 years in the Grand Rapids Public School system. “And it was very emotional when we found his name on the monument. Dave put Mary on his shoulders and she put a piece of paper up there and she scratched it with a pencil.”


A proud celebration of life and service

Siblings David, Suzanna and Margie Payne at home on 305 Murray St. in Wyoming in the late 40s. (David Payne)

“It made me feel real close to the brother that I never saw,” Green continued.


“I knew him, but never saw him. I was very proud that his name was there and that he was remembered. It was a celebration of his life and his service.”


Green said their faith got her through the tragedy.


“Mom read the bible every day,” Green explained. “I love him like I grew up with him and that’s because my mother kept his memory alive.”


“We love him even though we didn’t ever get to meet him. And he still is well loved.”

Navy changes status

The Navy officially changed the status of George David and 12 other sailors lost when the Indianapolis was sunk in 1945 from “unaccounted for” to “buried at sea,” Navy Casualty announced on May 27, 2022.

The change in status is the result of extensive research between Naval History and Heritage Command, Navy Casualty Office, the USS Indianapolis Survivors Association, the USS Indianapolis Legacy Organization, and the Chief Rick Stone and Family Charitable Foundation.

The announcement helps bring closure to the families of these sailors who lost their lives at the end of a secret mission which helped end World War II.

Remembering George David through his clothing

At age 12, David found one of George’s Navy peacoats.

“I put it on and came upstairs and asked mom if I could have it,” he recalled.

His brother James would put on his Navy uniform occasionally.

A friend’s dad and Battle of the Bulge veteran from World War II, James Emanouil, age 97 at the time of the original article, used to spar with George David in the early forties at a local gym in Grand Rapids.

“I think George David wanted to join this war because of James and Nick.”

Service to the country goes way, way back

David’s fascination with genealogy led to a discovery of another young veteran from long ago. He learned that a great, great, great grandparent fought in the American Revolution at age 15, Eli Payne, Sr. His 100-year-old aunt, at the time, gave David a charcoal drawing of this relative.

Captain Charles B. McVay III

Captain Charles B. McVay III, commander of the USS Indianapolis. (Naval History and Heritage Command Archives)

Per the Naval History and Heritage Command website, “Captain McVay was court-martialed in the aftermath of the sinking and found guilty of recklessly endangering his crew by failing to zig-zag, in spite of I-58 Captain Mochitsura Hashimoto’s testimony at the trial stating that such maneuvers would not have changed the outcome of his attack. The conviction effectively ruined McVay’s career. It was controversial at the time and remains so today.” (Hashimoto was the Japanese submarine commander that sank the USS Indianapolis.) 

“McVay had a distinguished naval career prior to the loss of the Indianapolis. He served as Executive Officer of the USS Cleveland during the North African landings in November 1942 and earned a Silver Star for his actions aboard the same ship in the Solomon Islands in March 1943.”

After his death, McVay was exonerated by United States President Bill Clinton and the 106th Congress in 2000. Captain McVay committed suicide on November 6, 1968.


The bold paragraphs below are excerpts from survivor Captain Charles B. McVay’s detailed “Oral History – The Sinking of USS Indianapolis”

This is all documented in the Naval History and Heritage Command Archives. For a complete account of “Recollections of Captain Charles B. McVay, III,” visit here.

Captain McVay:

Commander Flynn


Executive officer [second in command on the ship] came up, Commander Flynn, and said, “We are definitely going down and I suggest that we abandon ship.” Well, knowing Flynn and having utter regard for his ability, I then said, “Pass the word to abandon ship.”

Dividing up rations floating at sea

I looked over the material that we had, the food stuffs, and told the people that I would open one Hormel tin per day. It contains 12 ounces and we would divide that evenly, and I also figured out each person could have two biscuits and two malted milk tablets, which I knew would last us about ten days.

Attacked by sharks

We had sharks, or rather they had sharks down there [in the life preserver group]. We know that because we have two survivors who were bitten by sharks and as I told this one boy in the hospital. I said, “You’d better take some castellan paint and put on that thing before it heals up because nobody will ever believe you’ve been bitten by a shark. You might as well outline the teeth mark and you will have it for the rest of your life and can say, `I know I was bitten by a shark.'”

USS Ringness to the rescue

The (USS) Ringness picked us up by radar. We had a 40 mm, empty ammunition can which I had spent a good deal of energy and time trying to get to, thinking it was an emergency ration, but we picked it up anyhow and saved it and she [Ringness] got a [radar] pip from this can. 

I think we had lost probably about 15% of our weight and I was naturally so elated to get on the ship, as were the others that we didn’t turn in at all. We were given something to eat, ice cream, coffee, such as that. The doctor said, “You can eat all you want,” which most of us did. We drank quite a bit of water.